HSF Weekly Meeting #139, 7 June, 2018
Present/Contributors: Graeme Stewart, Dario Menasce, Michel Jouvin, Pere Mato, Giulio Eulisse, Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Tommaso Boccali, Torre Wenaus, Daniel Elvira
News, general matters
- ACAT 2019 conference will be in Saas-Fee, 11-15 March.
- General Reminder - as experiment weeks and activities get scheduled
for next year please add them to the community
- Thanks to Davide for adding the ATLAS Weeks in 2019.
- Computing & SW for Big Science Editorial Board 2 days ago: good first year for the
journal (~15 articles), on track for 25 at the end of the year.
Need to raise awareness of the journal’s existence and encourage people
to contribute on all aspects of SW&C.
- Michel to organize a new meeting with Fastjet developers to
follow-up on the issues created by their choice of staying with
- Activity is currently on hold for two reasons: Sudhir is unavailable
for family reasons
and we are finalizing the publication of the arXiv
document on Training (see below).
- Ben and Graeme discussed planning for the group in the wake of the
LIM workshop. Hoping to have some more R&D activities that are
complementary to the test drive, to be discussed next
- Needs draft agenda and a registration form in Indico, then we should
- Meeting planned next
week, 14 June.
Follow up on static analysers and profilers. N.B. Due to
scheduling constraints this meeting will replace our coordination
- Had the first software forum meeting
on DD4hep suite.
- Healthy turnout, ~35 people between room and vidyo.
- Format of presentation from developer team and from the
experiment seemed to work very well.
- DD4hep is fulfilling an important role for detector description
in experiment’s software and conversions to various
representations while keeping consistency. Used mainly by
detector studies (FCC, ILC,...) and being evaluated by CMS as
a replacement of their current system. Useful discussions
between the developers and experiments.
- Agreed with Gaudi colleagues that HSF can use the odd numbered weeks
of the year in this Wednesday 17h slot.
- Sadly, clashes for the next two dates: ROOT I/O 20 June;
US Independence Day 4 July.
- Planning for next meeting then 18 July with VecCore and
- Then resume after the summer break, 12 September.
- Please suggest topics and contact interested parties - use the
usual coordination list.
HSF/WLCG Workshop Follow-up
- Practical follow ups at the HSF level:
- Inventory of community activities:
- Ideas for restructuring the website are advancing
- The big picture for “software upgrades”:
- Discussion with ATLAS and CMS coordination about trying to setup
working groups in the ‘big three’ areas: Simulation,
- Get some key people to act as a seed in their area of
- As with all HSF activities this is open to all.
- We have extended the registration deadline to June 15th.
- Questionnaire now ready to go to the participants.
Generators Software Re-engineering Workshop
- Andrea V, Markus S, Witek P and Graeme S met last week and
identified some names to approach to help organise a workshop for
the end of the year.
- See this great
from Andy Buckley that highlights the need for this.
- Liz: Work commissioned by DOE OoS on generators, so we make sure we
contact them for involvement.
General Matters and Roadmap
- Publication in Computing&SW for Big Science journal progressing,
but we need to provide a HSF editorial contact to have HSF has
the author. Proposal to create an email address for this
(agreed to do this). Also need to clarify attribution of the
CWP to all the signatories: current inclination is not to
attribute it, is it a problem? Doing it means much more
Publication status for Individual WG Papers
- Data Organisation, Management and Access
- Submission failure due to missing references… to be fixed.
- Data and Software Preservation
- Still on hold because of Michel lack of time.
- Event/Data Processing Frameworks
- Just need to sort out technical issues with my pull request.
- Careers, Staffing and Training
- Dan Katz helped us by reviewing the document and John Harvey
is going to do the same in order to keep the quality at
the required publication standard. I (Dario) have made the
formatting compliant with the arXiv required standard, so,
once John feels satisfied we can proceed with final
submission. An important thing missing is still adequate
bibliographic references (hard to find, given the
subject): help on this would also be appreciated.
- Graeme tidied up Indico a bit - deleting empty categories and moving
old weekly meetings from the top level into the Weekly Meetings
- Website was switched to force https.
- Reminder - no coordination meeting next week (Software Development Tools
meeting instead). Reconvene 21 June.