HSF Weekly Meeting #175, 5 December, 2019
Present/Contributors: Caterina Doglioni, Graeme Stewart, David Lange, Eduardo Rodrigues, Chris Jones, Marco Clemencic, Daniel Elvira, Pere Mato, Benedikt Hegner, Witek Pokorski, Andrea Valassi, Heather Gray, Michel Jouvin, Ben Morgan, Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Gloria Corti, Kyle Knoepfel, Stefan Roiser, Marco Clemencic, Sudhir Malik, Adam Parker, James Walder
Apologies: Serhan Mete (ATLAS S&C Week)
News, general matters
- Graeme will give a talk at the CERN Scientific Policy Committee next Tuesday, Goals and plans of the HSF and related areas.
- Draft talk here:
- Software Challenges for HEP, with technology evolution (just needed to set the scene)
- HSF foundation, the CWP and beyond (remind people of how the HSF came about and the role it played so far - SPC people will not generally know)
- Active areas of R&D (touching on key WG areas)
- Funded software project summaries, IRIS-HEP, IRIS-UK, ErUM-Data IDT, EP R&D, … (reaching out to known people for input)
- Comments welcome
- Input from WGs particularly useful
- Working Group Convenors
- Graeme, Liz, Michel met on Tuesday this week
- Many great nominations, so thank you
- Choices were quite clear though
- Invitations to new convenors have been made, replies coming in
- Should be able to announce soon
Working Group Updates
- Still working on pre-CHEP workshop short conclusions
- Meeting yesterday, feedback of users for geometry tools (LHC experiments)
- LHCb and CMS moving to DD4hep
- ALICE using TGeo
- ATLAS have developed a new browser for their geometry
Reconstruction and Software Triggers
- Some difficulties in finding available speakers for next meeting, but still planned for December 11th
- Many ideas for common projects with astronomy/astrophysics/multi-messenger coming from different workshops we’re attending. Is there interest in thinking about an (HSF-wide) COST action again? (Deadline April)
- Could have a cross-disciplinary day (or more?) at the HSF workshop next year
- JENAS letter of intent request: link (these letters can help facilitate things)
- WG topical meetings will restart next year
- Discussions to be held among new convenership team
- As briefly mentioned already, great interest (by many) in co-locating the next workshop, PyHEP 2020, as a pre-event to SciPy 2020 in Austin, Texas, July 6-12. First discussions towards a “grand plan” will take place tomorrow. We will engage with SciPy organisers as soon as feasible.
- You can pre-book already the first 10-ish days of July!
See HSF Training Indico for all links!
- Have not fixed the next meeting yet, will probably try to have one before the break
- Will arrange one more meeting before the break, either next week (11 Dec) or the week after (18 Dec)
- We will have a meeting on December 18th with a contribution from ALICE
HSF/WLCG 2020 workshop
- Location confirmed: University building 1 2
- Workshop fee: Around 250 EUR, excluding lunches.
- Lunches: can be found in town with an average of 10 EUR/lunch (but Lundafelafel is famous among students and costs 3 EUR and if you get the spicy sauce you can taste that for days).
- Workshop dinner: around 50 EUR, depending on what beverages are included.
- Accommodation: pre-booked 150 rooms for hotels in town at University rate of around 100-120 EUR/night (up to 150 EUR if fanciest hotels), 30 single/double rooms in the University guest house for 50-60 EUR/night, we will let people self-organize a la JLab for room pairings and then make a list.
- Social: If you like running, think about coming the weekend before for the Lundaloppet run and join the Running Coupling Constants (Lund HEP teams)
- HSF Organising team is Heather Gray, Michel Jouvin, David Lange, Graeme Stewart
- We need to start to think about what we want from the HSF side
- For our working groups and communities
- Reaching out to others
- Do people want standard formats or something more interactive?
LAWSCHEP 2019 Workshop
The Latin American Workshop in S&C Challenges in HEP was held in Mexico City on November 20-23th, 2019, under the auspicies of HSF and with support from FNAL, CERN, and IRIS-HEP. Highly successful, attended by representatives of all HEP active Latin American countries (at least 1-2 people per country and many Mexican students). Document in preparation which will include partnership opportunities in different areas and will be submitted to LASF4RI (LA Strategy Forum for Research Infrastructure - sort of the LA Snowmass or European Strategy process).
- There is a Latin American School of High-Energy Physics, but no software track yet, which we could propose to them
- In the same way that detector physics is taught as a key part of the field
- Software Carpentry could be interested to help
- CERN say that they have allowed their CodiMD instance to be writable to people who use eduGAIN authentication
- Can someone test this? (You need an eduGAIN, non-CERN account)
- Next meetings
- Another before the end of the year? (12 or 19 December)
- Probably no actual meeting, instead do a “virtual meeting” at the beginning of w/b 16 December
- Meetings for next year
- Round up of the year would be good - Benedikt can do it!