HSF Coordination Meeting #206, 15 April 2021

Present: Allison Hall, Andi Salzburger, Andrea Valassi, Andrei Gheata, Attila Krasznahorkay, Ben Morgan, Benedikt Hegner, Caterina Doglioni, Daniel Elvira, Dorothea vom Bruch, Eduardo Rodrigues, Efe Yazgan, Graeme Stewart, Josh McFayden, Krzysztof Genser, Kyle Knoepfel, Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Marc Paterno, Mason Proffitt, Michel Jouvin, Mircho Rodozov, Nicole Skidmore, Paul Laycock, Pere Mato, Philippe Canal, Serhan Mete, Stefan Roiser, Sudhir Malik

Apologies: Kevin Pedro

News, general matters, announcements

HL-LHC Review Phase 2

We have discussed having mini-workshops to help prepare for the Analysis and Simulation documents. The idea is project and experiment presentations on plans, R&D, boundary conditions, etc. that we then discuss to check that we are aligned.

The dates are now fixed for these meetings:

They run from 15-18h CEST. Note the plan is to have a first draft of these documents by 30 June.

For the Physics Event Generators the WG conveners are contacting different generator teams and will invite them to discuss the review in forthcoming meetings. There are quite a few to get though, but we think we have time.

Google Summer of Code, Season of Docs

Proposal for DUNE Framework Requirements Review

HSF Workshops in 2021

With vCHEP and ACAT this year (and the HL-LHC review) we think there is no need to have a big event this year.

But we would like to have possible mini-workshops focusing on one particular topic. A couple of possible ideas:

For next year, we do plan to have a f2f pre-CHEP workshop in Norfolk (has been discussed with Amber).

See PyHEP 2021 workshop below.

Working Group Updates

Data Analysis

Detector Simulation

Reconstruction and Software Triggers

Software Tools and Packaging

Next meeting on experience with Spack at Fermilab by Steve White:

There is a Spack HEP channel that can be used for discussion and help.

Software Training

Not many people signed for training hackathon followup (to pick a date in end of April) - https://doodle.com/poll/2yuffursq7t7ghhb Please advertise (C++ team??), also using Mattermost. This is good for other HSF working groups with interest in training.

Event Generators


We met last week for our monthly “coffee”–Ben Wynne (ATLAS/Gaudi) discussed efforts to migrate to the encouraged TBB interface. These have been rather fun!

Would also like to touch on data quality in later meetings.

Much effort going into DUNE fwk review.

Other Interest and Activity Areas


Plan to update / reword the HSF document about licenses and copyright.


ESCAPE / European Open Science Cloud EOSC-Future work starting

Mailing Lists

It seems that changes in Google policy now mean that it is not possible to sign up to Google Groups lists without a Google account. Note that when we decided the mailing list policy for HSF it was before eduGAIN so we may consider a different policy later (not urgent).

Next Meeting(s)