Attending
Present/Contributing: Graeme Stewart, Stefan Roiser, Andrea Valassi, Patrick Gartung, Uwe Hernandez Acosta, Eduardo Rodrigues, Joe Osborn, Benedikt Hegner, Pere Mato, Matthew Feickert, Jamie Gooding, Holly Szumila-Vance, Kolja Kauder, Mark Neubauer, Claire Antel, Krzysztof Genser, Tommaso Lari, Steve Mrenna, Benedikt Hegner, Joe Osborn, Juraj Smiesko
Apologies/Contributing: Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Paul Laycock
News, general matters, announcements
HSF Joint Workshop with WLCG and HSF Evolution
(Impressions from Graeme - please feel free to add your own)
Overall we felt this was a successful workshop - ~40 people in the room for the software sessions, plus 10-20 on Zoom. A lot of interesting talks and good discussions.
The opening plenary talk on HSF retrospective and future seemed well received.
The session on HSF Evolution went pretty well - generally comments were constructive (even when partially critical). See live notes for a summary of the discussion.
Training session had lots of great talks and a good spirit of collaboration. One of our most appreciated activities!
For discussion of follow-ups see the closing slides that Eduardo presented.
Main points:
- Should we have a more formalised time for comments on the proposals?
- Practically Google Doc comments or by email?
Coordination Team Steering Group
- General happiness with the plan…?
- Rename the Coordination Team to the Steering Group
- Concretely we can rename hsf-core-coordination to hsf-steering
- Elect an SG chair
- Let’s repeat here the call for new coordinators!
- Setup the Advisory Group
- We need to act on who to invite here (experiments plus WLCG at least?)
- Reorganising “Working Groups” and “Activities”
- Setting up the seminar series seems to get broad support
- Would help a lot to focus community interest on highlight topics
- 1x month?
- How does this play with C&AF and Roundtable?
- Not clear yet, does need to be re-discussed in the broader context
- Do not want to “disband” the WGs, we need their expertise
- In which areas do we really have “working” and which are more like “forums”
- e.g., the Training WG really work!
- But what’s the best nomenclature?
- We need input from the WG experts to help organise the seminars
- HSF Affiliated Projects
- Some interest
- Would need to define the criteria (and do some practical things to generate badges)
- We need to make some approaches to projects that we think are key to have in this process
- Project awards (maybe move on this later…?)
Working Group Updates
Data Analysis
- DAWG Meeting at 16:00 CET on 10th June ‘24 dedicated to CMS Combine with talk and discussion from Nick Wardle: https://indico.cern.ch/event/1412073/
PyHEP
- PyHEP 2024 (online) (1–4 July, 2024) registration and call for abstracts is open now
- Call for Abstracts has been extended to May 31st.
- Reviews of abstracts will happen rapidly after to accepted abstracts will have enough time to prepare.
- PyHEP.dev 2024 (26–30 August, 2024) organisation continues
- Workshop in-person in Aachen, Germany
Detector Simulation
- We held a quite well attended session on “Machine Learning for Detector Simulation”: https://indico.cern.ch/event/1408850/ on May 6th and the speaker was Kevin Pedro
- A session on “Machine Learning for end-to-end Fast Detector Simulation” to be held on June 3rd: https://indico.cern.ch/event/1413344/. It will feature a talk on Lamarr (LHCb oriented application) and FlashSim (CMS oriented application)
Software Training
C++ Course and Hands-on Training
- An advanced C++ course will be held in fall, exact dates TBD
Reconstruction and Software Trigger
- First meeting of the year on 4D tracking @ Belle II. Very interesting meeting. Participants numbers on the low side however: 11 total, dominated by ATLAS/ACTS (might have been due to public holiday next day).
- Meeting was recorded - Claire just realised forgot to upload recording.
JuliaHEP
Other Interest and Activity Areas
Analysis Facilities
Session at the WLCG-HSF workshop
- See the nice summary by Jamie Gooding
Compute and Accelerator Forum
Indico agenda
- 29 May: NVidia Update
- 12 June: AMD GPU roadmap
Event generators
Graeme and Leif will have a chat with Michelangelo to try and understand the evolving efforts here, supported by the LPCC.
Steve: trying to resurrect “apprentice” as a successor to “professor”; good to see that HDF5 version of LHE files is more prominent (LHEH5, see talk by Chris at the workshop).
AOB
ICFA Panel
There was a meeting this week of the new ICFA Panel on Data Lifecycles
- Two presentations on training, for HSF/IRIS-HEP (Graeme) and EVERSE (Stefan)
Website
Graeme had a play with converting the website to run with Hugo or to update the Jekyll theme (currently the very basic minima)
- Automatic conversion was not a great success - it really just moves the “posts” into the Hugo
content folder
- Yes, it’s completely possible to do this, but I think it’s a week’s work to get everything looking good
- Volunteers…? Anyone have a student who is good with websites?
Next Meetings
The next meeting will be on 6 June.
Reminder: please sign up for chairing one of the 2024 meetings.
We now have a guide for running the meeting!