HSF Coordination Meeting #278, 21 November 2024

Attending

Present/Contributing: Graeme A Stewart, Eduardo Rodrigues, Pere Mato, Claire Antel, Steven Gardiner, Michel Jouvin, Alex Moreno, Krzysztof Genser, Liz Sexton Kennedy, Joe Osborn, Tommaso Lari, Torre Wenaus, Stefan Roiser, Sapta Battacharya, Patrick Gartung, Paul Laycock, Alexander Held

Apologies/Contributing:

News, general matters, announcements

LHCC

European Strategy Update (ESPPU)

Things are in motion!

Activity area mini-workshops are being organised:

Data Analysis and Physics Generators should announce their dates soon.

Generators had a discussion with key people last week about the challenges that need covered in the EPPSU submission. A draft of the main points is in preparation now. Main points of discussion were:

Stefan: there was a kick-off of the LHCC MC WG last week. The WG would like to stay aligned with HSF’s inputs.

Steven: there will be a submission on neutrino scattering, which will also have aspects of the neutrino generators. Steven will take care of harmonising this with the other document.

It’s important to cover the careers aspect as well. Here we can work with StefanRoiser and the JENA WP5 group.

In discussions with the experiments about them endorsing the final document - ALICE and LHCb are favourable.

HSF Seminar Series

Seminar Indico Category.

Next scheduled seminar dates are:

Nicole Skidmore has agreed to join the seminar team, together with Michel and Benedikt.

Steering Group News

We had a Steering Group meeting on Tuesday 19 November - minutes are available.

Advisory Group

The HEP experiments (ALICE, ATLAS, Belle II, DUNE, CMS, LHCb), WLCG and the theory community (MCnet) were contacted and all responded positively to being on the AG.

Intention is to have a first AG meeting early next year.

HSF Affiliated Projects and Software

First review, prmon, is done. This is the first new affiliated project for the HSF!

N.B. official links to the HSF Project Badges are now available.

We need to find people to help do these reviews. They are fairly lightweight and should not take a lot of time - we are checking usefulness and impact in the community, as well as software development and project best practices.

The NNPDF collaboration asked more than a month ago to be included - discussions with generator conveners to find an additional reviewer.

We should also start to approach our previous projects. Volunteers?

Michel: are we refining the process and aims of the review? We are learning from the process and we will refine things, including feedback from the projects.

Todo: add on the HSF site a page with the list of affiliated projects.

Claire: OSPO workshop, there was a question on how the OSPO can help project visibility. However, the OSPO is for CERN projects - but there might be a useful discussion to be had with them.

Activity Updates

It is time to consider again conveners for 2025 - will people be happy to stay on or feel it is time to standdown? Thanks to those who already indicated their intentions.

For others please let us know at hsf-search-committee@cern.ch (currently Benedikt, Claire, Michel, Liz, Graeme, and Paul).

Data Analysis

Software Training

We are planning activities for next year:

Software Tools and Packaging

Detector Simulation

Reconstruction and Software Trigger

PyHEP

Physics Generators

See the EPPSU discussion above.

Compute and Accelerator Forum


AOB

Next Meeting

Next meeting will be 5 December.

HSF Talks

Graeme gave an HSF talk at DESY last week: slides on Zenodo, HEP Software Foundation: Past, Present and Future.

If you want the “source” just ask!

2025 Meetings

Coordination meeting slots have been booked for 2025 - the usual pattern every two weeks on odd weeks of the year. The first meeting next year will be on 16 January 2025.

Reminder: please sign up for chairing this or one of the future coordination meetings - including 2025!