HSF Weekly Meeting #150, 8 November, 2018
Present/Contributors: Graeme Stewart, R.M.Bianchi (offline), Xiaomei
Zhang, Pere Mato, Tommaso Boccali, Davide Costanzo, Eduardo Rodrigues,
Serhan Mate, Dario Menasce, David Lange, Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Michel
Jouvin, Daniel Elvira, Witek Pokorski, Mark Neubauer
News, general matters
- OpenLab Quantum Computing workshop
was this week at CERN.
- Huge success, the CERN main auditorium was full (~400 people
- It looks there is much interest in QC from HEP, especially (at least
at this stage) at the exploration level.
- “We don’t know if we will be able to use QC for our needs, and on
which timescale, but it would be a shame not to explore the field”
(freely quoted from F.Carminati).
- From that there is interest in a new HSF working group looking at QC
- A new “interest group” was started during the workshop, by a
small group of interested people from different HEP
experiments (R.M.Bianchi, S.Binet, R.Di Sipio, L.Heinrich,
M.Pierini), to discuss QC topics: technologies, SW frameworks,
potential HEP use cases and test tasks, grants, common
- A new mailing list can be found at the link below (please, feel
free to subscribe, if interested).
- A new page for the group will be created soon within the HSF web
- General comments: Second day much better than the first.
OpenLab IBM workshop soon,
will cover some QC toolkits.
- Meeting last week to start to plan in more detail the agenda:
- Broad outline to start with plenary sessions concentrating on
experiment and facility plans, which are of common interest.
- Then start to split into more technical parallel sessions.
- I think for HSF we should try and avoid too much overlap
between software oriented sessions, but we will have a lot
to fit in.
- Session coordinators will be required.
- Friday morning will likely be a final plenary (finish at
- Reminder - send any input you have to David, Graeme, Michel.
- Agenda placeholder
- Practical matters:
- Early registration ~$125, late ~$175
- Dinner event separately billed at ~$77 (Maritime museum,
- Hotels blocked for ~$99/night
- N.B. No lunch included as options were not attractive on-site,
90-min breaks envisaged.
- We hope to get registration opened ASAP (well before Christmas).
- Car sharing much encouraged!
- Question about an open call for abstracts: not planned. Session
conveners are in charge to identify the potentially interesting
talks and invite the speaker.
- Does not prevent managing specifically the people whose ability
to attend is linked to the fact they present something, please
contact organisers to discuss this (and get letters of invitation).
New Working Groups
- Final list of
- Coordination group discussed how to make a balanced selection, with
a mechanism that allows people to give candid opinions.
- Setup a “search committee” to take input confidentially until 16
November (from all).
- SC is Andrea Valassi, Benedikt Hegner, Graeme Stewart, Liz
Sexton-Kennedy, Michel Jouvin.
- SC will propose a list of candidates for further discussion with
Coordination Team w/b 19 November.
- Announce decision 26 November (after Thanksgiving).
Generators Software Computing Workshop
- Preparations almost complete now:
- Indico agenda.
- Sessions from experiments, generators, optimising use, NNLO,
- 44 people registered.
- Please sign up if you’re coming (otherwise no coffee!).
- Would like meeting with the fastjet developers after the generators
workshop on Tuesday 27 November:
- Email sent to Fastjet people this morning trying to confirm the
- ATLAS and CMS will give input.
- We should get input from KT as well.
- Last meeting was 7
- Discussed Spack work in SFT and also new features in lcgcmake to
generate local installations.
- Planning a meeting in November on monitoring tools - Servesh has
confirmed his interest.
General Matters and Roadmap
- CSBS review
- Editorial secretariat (aka Michel, Eduardo, Graeme, David) worked
- Hopefully, we think we addressed most of the comments: included
some refinements to the CWP (new references, a couple of new
R&D actions for items referenced as important but not in the
- We plan to submit these modifications in the next days.
- We still need to sort out a problem with reference resolution
messing up the PDF rendering.
- Do we want to update arXiv with the last version (at the end mostly
improvements)? Yes, we agreed on that.
Publication status for Individual WG Papers
- Data Organisation, Management and Access
- Waiting input from Bo (on holiday at the moment).
- Event/Data Processing Frameworks
- References improved - last circulation to potential wider author
list then publish.
- HSF Logo in vector format - reminder of action on Benedikt.
Discussion with Xiaomei Zhang on IHEP Software Interests
- Small software group in IHEP, supporting running and future experiments.
- Discussed that CEPC would be a massive project.
- Several areas where we would like to collaborate identified.
- Are IHEP willing to contribute to software developments as well as use
- Important to get people to the JLab workshop as a first step in face to
- Timezone is a practical difficulty, given that meetings are pulled to
maximise US/EU attendance.
- A visit (sometime next year?) of a few key HSF members to China could be
an additional good step to establishing common work programmes.
- Xiaomei Zhang can act as point of first